http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275172587&sid=1&pageNo=1
Among other things:
"1) Steady Shot – now only gains 10% of attack power as damage (down from 20%)."
And people told me that using Aimed in my rotation was bad. Ha ha HA ha ha.
There's a couple of other bummers - Call of the Wild only works on me and Ayamiss, and Volley is getting its damage slashed, but this...
"5) Kill Shot – cooldown reduced to 15 sec (from 35 sec)."
and this...
"Improved Tracking – now benefits damage to all included creature types as long as you are tracking one of them. You don’t have to swap around what you are tracking as much."
so good
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
20 comments:
Know what I just LOVED:
3) Readiness – no longer affects the cooldown of Bestial Wrath.
fuck YEAH
I'm going to miss volley and Call of the Wild (having that stack was awesome!), but at least they didn't touch the core MM abilities, sans Steady, of course.
I'm sure your enjoying this one on multiple levels. :)
Not only being vindicated about Aimed Shot, but also seeing BM getting hit really hard on this expansion.
If nothing else, this should bring more people to SES!! For lessons from the MM Master!! :D
I actually agree with all of the Pet related changes, our pets were doing WAY too much damage. But the Steady Shot nerf cuts to the core of every hunter. It's a base shot and for the BM spec it's basically it's only shot.
As much as I'm glad for the change and increased focus to MM I'm saddened by the fact Blizz can't figure out how to make 3 PVE and PVP viable classes.
It was really hard to keep from giggling like a schoolgirl.
And it doesn't affect the main BM Hunters I respect (Pike and Mania), so even better!
@Brigwyn: The MM master I am not. That was Howitzer. I'm merely providing a resource where none existed.
Oh, Rilgon, this is why I love you:
"Q u o t e:
'B' combined with the other nerfs mean you might as well put a bullet in the BM spec. It'll be dead.
Gee, I wonder what that would be like.
It's not like one other Hunter spec had this fate for an entire expansion."
"It's not like one other Hunter spec had this fate for an entire expansion."
I don't know if you recall the state of BM hunter pre-BC, but it wasn't pretty.
Rilgon, I find your rejoicing to be distasteful at best. From the numbers I've seen, some sort of nerf was justified, but the vitriol in your response seems uncalled for.
Let me ask you this: during the first incarnation of WoW, did you rail about the OP nature of the MM tree and ask that it be nerfed so that your BM brethren could be better represented? Did you hear any overwhelming cry of joy from BM hunters in BC when the MM tree was relegated to pvp?
There are a lot of people who supported making MM and Surv viable pve specs who are BM specced. I'm no pro, but am frankly turned off by your pettiness. I know there are a lot of BM fanbois who ride anyone who is interested in another spec, but I don't read their blogs, precisely because they are asshats. How are you any different?
:/ Ouch. Didn't realize MM hunters hated BM so much that they would wish nerfs on fellow hunters, kind of hurts to see you so rejoiceful about it. I read someone's post the other day saying how they were upset about the hate MM and SV hunters were getting because people said BM was so much better... seems the hate can easily go both ways.
Not happy about the Readiness change. There aren't that many abilities it affects enough to be worthwhile right now for me, but taking BW and reducing the cooldown of Kill Shot on its own make it even less so. Even less reason for me to put points in MM now, it seems. I'll probably pick up Imp Tracking instead.
I don't use my cat anymore, I was excited to have more attractive options available when the expansion hit. But I love my pet and love the BM talent tree.
And I agree with Alaranddl, BM was pretty horrible before BC came out, and MM was the top dog back then with barely any competition. At least now it's a lot more evened out, it's possible to play any of the specs and enjoy it.
First off, the vindication that I speak of is people calling me out for using Aimed when a massive nerf for Steady was in the works.
Secondly, I'm excited about key nerfs that directly target the elitist, jerk-off, only-BM-because-it's-the-best Hunters (see: Drotara, etc.). I honestly mourn for good BM Hunters like Pike, Mania, Brajana, and their friends.
And yes, I sound a bit vitriolic when I post about Beast Mastery. Why? Because for an entire EXPANSION, I had to endure vitriolic ridicule and slander from the entire ruling body of the Hunter class. I had to go an entire expansion being purely mathematically inferior with NO WAY TO COMPENSATE.
You don't endure through that without becoming moderately bitter and easily lashed out.
...I need to go back to being a docile, submissive priest. Fuck.
It was more the first few comments on this post rather than the original post that got to me, to be honest.
I do understand that it's tough to be in a spec where the numbers just aren't there - and even if the dynamic of the spec is what you love, there will always be those who pick on you because you aren't doing -quite- as much DPS as a BM hunter could. I fully encourage you to do what you like, even if it may not be top DPS number-wise (although I will continue to say, math may be with the BM, but I know plenty of MM or SV hunters who I'd much rather have in my raid than a lot of the BM hunters out there).
This brings up a related issue - having three distinct talent trees can really bring some serious division between members of the same DPS class. Because for several classes, each tree has a specific 'job', Healing, DPS, Tanking, etc... but for us, the lines are pretty blurred. Just an observation.
Why can't we all just get along? /love!
man, there's a moderate knee cap in my efficeny of mob grinding for dailies and quests.
If I hadn't been there from the beginning, I think I'd see Rilgon's jubilation as being unjustified and cruel.
BUT having been on the forums when he was literally driven away from the game b/c of his opinions and viceral steadfastness in holding them I can understand his point.
The only question is, after the initial celebration, who will end up being the bigger man, and step up for their fellow hunter or who will continue to push buttons and call names.
In the end we're a community of hunters and should support each spec, whether we like it or not, instead of demoralizing those who prefer it. Whether that be MM, BM, or SV. But hey.. that's what I'm about.
Here, Rilgon get's to do what he wants with impunity! :)
ill admit, i changed my spec from mm to bm during bc because it was more dps. i dont remember you hating people on the forums who did that, i just remember you hating people that gave you shit for wanting mm to be competitive (even though, if anyone asked, you would say bm was the best dps).
i just wonder how "distasteful" your rejoicing would be if there was no steady shot nerf
-admon
If I recall correctly, it was a battle between MM and SV back in the day. Admittedly, those days are very hazy now (hell, I'm already beginning to forget what the 2.0 talent trees looked like).
My hatred of the BM talent tree stems exactly from the official forums and being targeted directly ingame for defending MM. That elitism disgusts me - they were so satisfied with one all-powerful spec, and anyone that suggested equality was slandered. I genuinely love people that play BM because they love the tree, just like I love people that play SV for the love of the tree.
If you're playing this game out of pleasure of achieving the highest output of DPS, then you are rerolling every patch.
Ew, official forums FTL. Just looking at them makes my eyes burn. I know there are plenty of great hunters out there of each and every spec, but whenever I find myself on the official forums, I can't help but feel like there's nothing but huntards around! Guess all the good hunters are busy blogging or actually playing the game, not trolling the silly forums :)
Neggles - Railing in glee against the BM hunters really isn't a great way to rail against the elitism.
These same elitists were MM in WoW 1.x, BM 2.x, and now will wait, adapt and become what ever truly is the best "mathmatical" spec. And they'll make sure everyone knows it.
So rejoicing for a BM hunter that "Loves" their class but being hurt by the nerfs is bad form. (I know this isn't what you nor Rilgon are doing.)
But if you don't think if MM turns out to be the best Hunter Raiding spec that these same elitist won't now be in your spec picking on the SV or BM little guys, just wait.
And honestly... do you want to be in the same boat as them?
And Rilgon, this might mean some of the very hunters you have such disdain for, might now be just as vehelmently promoting MM (should it turn out to be the best hunter spec) as they did BM.. what then?
Rilgon - Yes, we all remember Howitzer, but since he's gone, that leaves you. Like it or not (and as your sitemeter and stats prove) for MM hunter info, they're coming to you. :)
That's a well deserved gratz btw. :)
My glee is more for equality than anything. I want more people playing what they enjoy playing rather than what they feel obligated to play.
Should I wander back over to the official forums again, I should hope to be one of those "play what spec you enjoy - sure MM is the top again [should that happen] but SV and BM are just as good when played right, and having fun is the entire part of the game anyway!" people to counteract "you should spec MM because it's the best" people.
Though, I admit, thinking about those elitist touching my spec makes me feel dirty...
@ Neggles' last comment-
That was one of the things that actually occurred to me this time. I was thinking "You know, if MM ends up becoming the top spec this time around, all the jerkfaces are just gonna do the same thing they did with MM that they did with BM last time." And while I'll be glad they're leaving my backyard, it makes me sad for the good MM hunters who don't deserve that kind of reputation.
We can all only hope that all three specs will wind up competetive in the end, and more hunters we be able to enjoy their class the way they want to.
They may be coming, but that doesn't make me a master. I don't think my name will ever be as prolific as Howitzer's was.
But I do appreciate the compliments and congratulations. :)
And YOU need to update THL with level 80 specs. :P
I've played a hunter for 4 years, and I lurk often on blogs and the forums. I never bother posting anything meaningful on the official forums because of the vitriol of elitist assholes. Reading them is toxic at best.
As someone who has primarily played a BM hunter since TBC, I'm more than happy to let Rilgon flip his middle finger at those elitist BM haters who belittle their fellow community about wanting to play their character the way they want. He's earned the right after the tide of excrement that washed over him - and this applies to everyone else as well that has endured the same nonsense. Alu, Brig and Mirshalak are prime examples.
I think the nerfs, with the exception of Steady Shot (which is very harsh for all specs), may hopefully knock some of those smug clown shoes off their self-righteous pedestal. We need to enjoy it, (and as Brig suggested) forget it just as quick and move on with focusing our ire at Ghostcrawler or Kalgan or anyone else that toys with the functionality of the class, not the players of the class.
Hot damn, we are really divided out there over specs, and it's just got to stop.
To all the hunter bloggers out there - keep up the great work :) You are the lights in a great darkness.
Post a Comment